View Agenda for this meeting PARKS, RECREATION AND FORESTRY
COMMISSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 PM with Commissioner Staudt presiding. ROLL CALL: Commissioner Bamzai (Present), Burke (Present), Enright (Present) Schwarzlose (Present), Staab (Present), Staudt (Present), Wagner, (Present), Wingfield (Present), Zyczynski, (Present). Commissioner Staudt asked Commissioner Bamzai and Commissioner Wagner to lead the Pledge of Allegiance. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Moved by Commissioner Enright, seconded by Commissioner Wingfield to approve the agenda as written. Voice Vote CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION: None. PRESENTATION: None. COMMISSION COMMITTEE REPORT: A. Novi Parks Foundation – Commissioner Staab Commissioner Staab stated at their last meeting in October that they named all of their committees. Two of the committees will focus on the Naming Rights Program. These are the Sales Committee and the Marketing Committee. Their next meeting is November 15th. The December meeting will be their Annual Meeting when there will be election of officers. Commissioner Staudt stated that he has in his possession this evening a draft of a grant proposal, which will be reviewed at the meeting in November. STAFF REPORTS: A. Park and Forestry Operations – Jack Lewis, Deputy Director
B. Recreation Services – Director, Randy Auler
C. Administration – Director Auler
MATTERS FOR COMMISSION ACTION/DISCUSSION: A. Approval of October 13, 2005 regular meeting minutes. A motion was made to approve the amended September 8, 2005 regular meeting minutes by Commissioner Enright and seconded by Commissioner Wingfield. Voice Vote Carried Unanimously
B. Discussion and appointment of Parks, Recreation and Forestry Commission Committees Commissioner Staudt stated that the Commission needs to take on some big projects that need to be identified. The Commission has taken on big projects for the last three years and tackled all of them and it is time to identify some new ones. Those projects can include parkland acquisition, seeking out ball fields, soccer fields and sports fields, not just new parkland but utilization of existing or potential land that we may not need to acquire. We have a huge issue of the recertification of the Community Recreation Plan. He feels that they need two years to review and go through this document and reallocate the strategies and goals. The goals have changed because most of the previous goals have been achieved at some level. Commissioner Staudt feels that committees are the way big projects get done and it is critical to have good committee leadership and participation. Commissioner Staudt then asked about the submission of a Grant application for Land and Water Conservation Fund or Natural Resources Trust Fund in the spring of 2006 and what the grant is for. Director Auler stated that has to be identified and that we have to look at the Recreation Plan, the park needs and what the criteria are, which will come from DNR and have not been established yet. They will not send the information out until after the new year. Commissioner Staudt stated that one of the big things that need to be done prior to that it to identify some potential acquisitions. He feels that one of the short-term committees that need to be put together is a group who can identify and evaluate opportunities for acquisition of not only active parkland but also whatever parkland is available under the grants. That committee could then step easily in to the responsibility of developing the grant. He then stated that all of the grants have a match element and then asked what the percentage is. Director Auler replied that it depends on which grant application is submitted and the type of grant. LWCF money is usually a 50/50 match. There are criteria you can use for in kind services and other things that qualify. That program has been drastically reduced. The federal level wanted to eliminate the program completely in this fiscal year. It was saved but not at the funding level of previous years. The Natural Resources Trust Fund Grant is funded through the mineral rights from across the state and it focuses on goals that are established by the Trust Fund Board. These are established annually at their meeting and the information goes out in their grant applications with the scoring criteria and what types of projects they are looking for. Commissioner Staudt stated that he thinks it is the consensus of the Commission that one of the committees they would like to form is one that will look in to potential properties, potential uses of property and eventually a presentation to City Council because they will be looking at a long dollar match commitment. Commissioner Staudt then stated that he thinks that the Strategic Planning Committee needs to be regenerated. It is the one behind the Community Recreation Plan, which needs updating. There are a lot of changes that need to be made especially to the different areas of the action strategy. Commissioner Enright stated that typically a yearly review was done of the Community Recreation Plan. Director Auler stated that the plan has been reviewed each year with City Council in a joint meeting. The Recreation Plan can be updated each year as well and submit it to DNR. Commissioner Staudt stated that the Commission will be informally maintaining the structure for reporting the activity of the Parks Foundation through Commissioner Staab as the Chairman of the Foundation. He will provide regular reports so the prior committee for that is no longer necessary. Commissioner Staudt stated that there is now a new element to the Commission with the youth council members. Perhaps there is something that they are interested in having a committee that could bring back some information on a regular basis from the High School because they are one step away from being voters. Commissioner Enright stated that it looks like we are basically keeping the same committees but perhaps changing the focus in each. Strategic Planning can work on updating the Community Recreation Plan. The Park Development can go after available space and look in to acquiring land. Resource Development was always the Park Foundation information update. The addition could be the youth council type committee. Commissioner Zyczynski stated that she thinks the 80 to 100 acre issue really needs to be something that needs to be pursued because of all of the building she is concerned that the land will be gone before there is an opportunity for acquisition of what might be necessary to meet the needs of this community as it grows. Commissioner Staab stated that he agrees with Commissioner Staudt’s evaluation and Commissioner Enright’s assimilation of updating the Community Recreation Plan. The youths’ ideas have a lot of merit. He also stated that there has been talk in the community about expanded services for seniors and perhaps a committee to identify or work with senior initiatives would have merit as the population continues to age. Commissioner Staudt stated that it was recommended by a City Council candidate to have an older persons’ commission. Whether it is done from an advisory level to us or done at a City Council level, it is a recommendation. It is something that should be talked about. Commissioner Wingfield stated that he feels things are running very well in the department and the Commission does not want to micro-manage. He feels things like getting information to the High School and to senior citizens might call for an analysis of marketing or public relations. He asked Director Auler if there was a way to promote the department and make it better for the program. Director Auler stated there is always a need to improve. There are many things that can be done in marketing, communications and research. Our challenge is how to position that within the department. Right now we have a staff person who does marketing and events. Events take up an enormous amount of time. Three times a year we send out 22,000 copies of our recreation guide, which goes to every home in the community. How do we know what our rate of return is and is there a better way of doing it? To answer that we would need someone who could focus on marketing and research, which would mean dropping something else. He is interested in how we can get better and this is what this discussion is about. Commissioner Staudt stated that, having listened for the last six months, there has to be a strategy to reduce the General Funds coming in to the department. He feels the Commission needs to first identify strategies but they are not familiar with the day-to-day operations of the department. He feels the Commission needs to be pro-active and maybe identify some of the programs that aren’t beneficial or do not fit financially. He stated that as much as they hate to micro-manage, he feels that the Commission will eventually have to get involved in the process of helping to identify and implement the painful things that need to be done. He agrees with Commissioner Wingfield, that they or the department have to evaluate all of the programs and justify them to the Commission and to City Council. The financial gap needs to be tightened possibly through sponsorship programs, the Park Foundation, and possibly some that might have been used for capital improvements for operations. He is unsure exactly what committee this would be but it will require financial savvy and vision. The information for identification of strategies will be largely provided by staff making recommendations but it will be helpful for an outside person to assist with this because they would provide perspective that a person who is too close to the programs may not see. Commissioner Staudt asked the youth members, Commissioners Bamzai and Commissioner Wagner, if they had any ideas about what they could bring back to the Commission in the form of a committee or would they like to form a group that goes beyond the Commission. Commissioner Wagner replied he feels a Youth Council would be a good idea because it is hard to get a perspective on something when you are not around it everyday. Commissioner Wingfield stated that recreational programs in any community lose the participation of children around the age of 14 and then come back and participate as adults. He feels that the new programs that involve the older youth is a good thing and can be enhanced. Commissioner Wagner replied that he feels the youth do not lose interest in the activities but their options are fewer as they get older. Commissioner Burke suggested that the Commission go back to the committees they had last year. The Resource Development Committee, which is the Park Foundation, will give the Commission a monthly update. The Park Development Committee can be used to identify the projects to be taken care of within any given park and working to identify any future land. The Strategic Planning Committee would work on the Community Recreation Plan and other budget issues. With those three committees and adding the Youth Council Committee, they should be able to take care of the needs outlined. Some of the larger tasks need to be identified and started. He feels that a joint meeting with City Council might be good because of the new City Council members and whether the New City Manager will be in or not does not mean we have to put what we want to present to City Council on hold. He also feel it would be best to make a presentation before they get the budget. Commissioner Staudt stated that the only thing that concerns him about that, as yet, is we do not know the potential of the Park Naming Rights. If that were to create the kind of revenue that we are thinking is potentially could, it might cause us to think differently about how we deal with things like Power Park. Until we know how the Park Naming Rights is going to go long-term he is hesitant to jump on too many projects. He then asked what is the potential of Bosco. Who is going to follow up on the Bosco property and work with the Parks, Recreation and Forestry department from the Commission to pursue, with the School Board, the potential of that property? If that property is available, we may have 50% of the 80 to 100 acres we are looking for right there. Then the question is how do we develop fields and facilities. Because of the Emerald Ash Borer problem and the ADA compliance we have been reactionary – reacting to problems. Now we can be pro-active. We need more soccer fields and ball fields. We have passive parks with trails that are coming, which no one can envision because it is not there yet but it is a lot of property. Commissioner Burke stated that is a nice home for some of the money that we will be able to raise through the Naming Rights. Power Park needs updating and repair so to wait and see what the potential of the Naming Rights before we spend any money or figure it out does not work because we are not sure when we will find out how much money we are going to get. We want to be in the forefront of City Council’s plans. Commissioner Enright stated that a year and half or two years ago, Derek Smith gave a power point presentation on Power Park that was phenomenal. The presentation showed everything that was wrong with the Park and what it would take to bring it up to date. That information should be updated or reviewed again because the new Commission members need to see it because it was enlightening. That would be a great basis for a Power Park update. Commissioner Staudt stated that this would go back to the Park Development Committee. Issues like the parkland at Walled Lake and the casino site are going to come up again as they have in years past. He feels that the Commission should deal with these issues head on. The Commission should make strong recommendations based on fact and citizen involvement. The Park Development Committee should seek, find, help fund parks. Commissioner Staudt then stated that it is time to talk about who would like to chair the committees. He then stated that Commissioner Staab was already Chairperson of the Park Foundation and is an obvious one for him to retain. Commissioner Staudt stated that Strategic Planning to him would include the review and implementation of strategies to reduce the General Fund subsidy in the department. Included will also be the Community Recreation Plan. He then asked Director Auler what was meant by "creation of key management plans." Director Auler stated that examples of plans that we do not have in place yet are, Resource Management Plan. It would deal with things like what percent of our land inventory should be active, passive and joint use. This would establish the criteria and guidelines as we are looking at land acquisition. It would establish a policy and a plan that will help determine if a piece of property or opportunity is a fit or not in the plan of what we would want the park system to become. The Revenue Plan would establish a fee policy and the tiers in that fee policy and the general philosophy of what is trying to be accomplished with fees. It would also deal with what the philosophy is in trying to reduce the General Fund subsidy or not reducing it, our policy as it relates to acquiring sponsor money and advertisement money and bringing that to fruition. Commissioner Staudt stated that he would like to add the Tree Fund. He said that there has been some discussion about the Tree Fund and how it is used for acquisition for replanting of trees. There has also been some discussion about long-term tree maintenance. This Tree Fund is going to go down and our development is going to be reduced so it will not be funded as frequently. He then asked what needs to be done to maintain our street trees for the long haul. Perhaps some kind of endowment should be created. He also stated that he does not know the details of how the Tree Fund works or who controls it. There has been some discussion of taking a portion of the money allocated to the Tree Fund and putting it aside to protect ourselves when we do not have heavy development several years from now. Director Auler added that another example would be a Management Asset Plan that is non-existent now but it is a plan to maintain and protect property and inventory. The Lakeshore Park shelter roof is an example. Everything has a fixed life that you can estimate. Director Auler then suggested that the Commission keep the three committees that they have. The committees should meet and then come back with what their priorities are going to be in terms of focus because there is a lot of work that needs to be done and it is going to take staff support. These three committees can identify what are the key priorities because it cannot all be done in a year. Commissioner Staudt asked how the Commission would like to go about selecting committees and chairperson. He stated that he could appoint people or he could take suggestions. Commissioner Wingfield stated that he would like to be on the Park Development Committee because it is being redefined but he would not like to be the Chairperson. Commissioner Bamzai stated that she needed to leave to attend a High School event. Commissioner Bamzai left at 8:40 p.m. Commissioner Zyczynski stated that she was interested in the Park Development Committee Commissioner Schwazlose stated that he would be Chairperson on the Strategic Planning Committee. Commissioner Staab stated that he would be Chairperson of the Resource Development Committee and he will also stay on the Strategic Planning Committee. Commissioner Enright stated that she would like to remain on the Park Development Committee. Commissioner Staudt stated that he will be extremely active in making sure that there is progress on the Park Development Committee. Commissioner Enright asked if the youth members would be assigned to committees. Commissioner Staudt replied that because they are non-voting members they could participate on either committee because he believes that there is no public meeting issue. Director Auler stated that he would check to confirm that. Commissioner Staudt asked Youth Commissioner Wagner if he had an interest in any of the committees Commissioner Wagner replied he really did not. Commissioner Staudt stated that if Commissioner Wagner would like his own committee, he would be happy to work with him on. He would be the committee and the youth Commissioners could participate. Director Auler suggested that if they wanted a youth or student committee he could provide a framework of a very successful program with rules from another community. There is a booklet and the group does a lot of social activities that get the youth, particularly High School students, involved. The High School students created the program in that particular community. This program has been successful in Cincinnati for 35 years. Commissioner Staudt asked if it was required that a Commissioner be part of that. Director Auler stated that someone is going to need to lead that program. Commissioner Staudt stated that he would be glad to chair the Youth Committee and asked Director Auler to give the plan to him and the Youth Commissioners. Commissioner Staudt then stated that the committees have been established. Commissioners Staab, Burke and Schwarzlose are on the Strategic Planning Committee. The Park Development Committee is chaired by Commissioner Zyczynski with Commissioners Enright and Wingfield also on the committee. A motion was made by Commissioner Enright and seconded by Commissioner Zyczynski to approve the Committees. Voice Vote Carried Unanimously
C. Discussion of paperless Parks, Recreation and Forestry Commission Packets. Commissioner Staudt stated that his only concern was the nice color pages that come in the packets. He does not have a color printer at home. He is willing to try it for the next meeting and then have everyone come back with a consensus of whether they like it or not. He suggested that it be done in a PDF format. The other Commissioners agreed to try it for the next meeting. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS: Commissioner Wagner – None Commissioner Zyszynski stated that she was reading through the reports and noticed that the Senior Center had some new signs. Before she came to the Commission Meeting she drove by the Senior Center and stated that even in the dark it was easier to find than the first time she went there and there were no signs. She thanked who ever got that project off the ground because it is a bit improvement. Commissioner Staudt stated that it was Councilperson Capello who made a motion on that at one of the last City Council Meetings. Commissioner Zyczynski then went on the congratulate Commissioner Wagner and the Novi High School Cross Country Team on their tremendous accomplishments this year. Commissioner Staudt asked where they ended up and how he did. Commissioner Wagner stated that they won their regional and went to the State Meet on Saturday and they finished 9th in Division One. He replied that he was 91st over all. Commissioner Wingfield - None Commissioner Burke stated that he would like to congratulate the new Mayor, David Landry, and the new Councilpersons, Capello, Margolis and Mutch. Everyone supported the parks in their campaigns before the election so we "hold their feet to the fire" on that. He would like to push for a joint meeting with City Council as soon as early as the Director might think is feasible, perhaps January. Commissioner Schwarzlose stated that Novi Theatres is having "The One-Act Festival" on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. He wanted to encourage citizens to attend and see some good performances. Commissioner Staab stated that on December 2nd, 3rd and 4th, the Novi Choralaires will have their Christmas Concert. Holy Family Church and St. James Church are two of the locations. The dates and locations will be published in the Novi News. He also wanted to congratulate the new mayor and councilpersons and is looking forward to working with them. He wished everyone a Happy Thanksgiving. Commissioner Staudt stated that he believes that we have a very supportive City Council toward parks. He thinks the Commission needs to bring them some big ticket items, not financially necessarily. We have a two year window and there are many things which can be accomplished. The Park Foundation is going to have a lot to do with that as well as the ability to do the Naming Rights. He believes the Commission Meetings are going to be running later because there are a lot of things to be accomplished. He will also be asking the Committees to do a lot of work. ADJOURNMENT: A motion was made by Commissioner Staab and seconded by Commissioner Enright to adjourn. Voice Vote Carried Unanimously The meeting was adjourned at 9:04p.m.
________________________________ Signed, David Staudt, Chairperson
________________________________ Signed, Butch Wingfield, Vice Chairperson
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